NOT SURE WE REALLY SHOULD BE INVOLVED HERE

We’ve lobbed a bunch of missiles into Syria.

I’m of two minds:

1. so long as it’s missiles and no troops being sent over….OK
2. when our missiles start killing civilians or Russians we will begin another quagmire like Iraq. And possibly a war with Russia.

Remember it wasn’t long ago and lots of conservatives were saying this is Assad’s problem and we need to stay out.

And when you have Nazi Pelousy and Dick-head Schumer thinking it’s OK then I begin to worry. Their decisions are never favorable to the US.

The United States launched nearly five dozen cruise missiles at a Syrian airfield early Friday in response to a chemical weapons attack that killed dozens of civilians, the first direct assault on the Damascus government since the beginning of that country’s bloody civil war in 2011.

“It is in the vital national security interest of the United States to prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons,” President Donald Trump said in a statement. “Tonight I call on all civilized nations to join us in seeking to end the slaughter and bloodshed in Syria, and also to end terrorism of all kinds and all types.”

Fifty-nine Tomahawk missiles targeted an airbase at Shayrat, located outside Homs. The missiles targeted the base’s airstrips, hangars, control tower and ammunition areas, officials said.

Pentagon spokesman Capt. Jeff Davis said initial indications were that the strike “had “severely damaged or destroyed Syrian aircraft and support infrastructure and equipment … reducing the Syrian Government’s ability to deliver chemical weapons.”

Trump said the base was used as the staging point for Tuesday’s chemical weapons attack on rebel-held territory, which killed as many as 72 civilians, including women and children.

“Assad choked out the lives of helpless men, women and children,” Trump said from Mar-a-Lago, Fla. “Even beautiful babies were cruelly murdered in this very barbaric attack. No child of God should ever suffer such horror.”

The U.S. missiles hit at 8:45 p.m. Eastern time, 3:45 a.m. Friday morning in Syria. Syrian state TV reported a U.S. missile attack on a number of military targets and called the attack an “aggression.”

U.S. military officials said they informed their Russian counterparts of the impending attack in an effort to avoid any accident involving Russian forces. Nevertheless, Russia’s Deputy U.N. ambassador Vladimir Safronkov warned that any negative consequences from the strikes would be on the “shoulders of those who initiated such a doubtful and tragic enterprise.”

Davis, the Pentagon spokesman, confirmed that “there are Russians at the base,” but said they had been warned “multiple times” to leave. He did not know whether Russian aircraft were at the base when the missiles hit.

The U.S. also notified its partner countries in the region prior to launching the strikes.

U.S. defense officials tell Fox that two warships based in the eastern Mediterranean, the USS Porter and the USS Ross, have been training for the past two days to execute this mission.

“Our forward deployed ships give us the capability to quickly respond to threats,” said a Navy official. “These strikes in Syria are a perfect example – this is why we’re there.”

The original plans called for two targets, the airbase and a chemical weapons storage facility. However, Pentagon planners decided late Thursday to target just the airbase.

As a candidate, Trump warned against against the U.S. getting pulled into the Syrian civil war. But the president earlier in the week appeared moved by the photos of children killed in the chemical attack.

“I think what happened in Syria is one of the truly egregious crimes and shouldn’t have happened and it shouldn’t be allowed to happen,” Trump told reporters traveling on Air Force One to Florida earlier , where he was holding a two-day summit with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Late Thursday, a U.S. government official told Fox News that the intelligence community has high confidence that the attack was carried out by Syrian government aircraft. The official said the analysis was consistent with eyewitness reports that fixed-wing aircraft launched the strike.

The official described the use of sarin gas in the attack as a watershed. The Assad government had agreed to disband its chemical weapons capability by 2014 under an agreement coordinated with the Obama administration and Russia. Tuesday’s attack was considered a breach of that agreement.

The Turkish ministry of health says the preliminary results show the use of sarin gas. Sarin is a colorless, odorless liquid and is highly volatile moving easily from liquid to a gas, that unlike chlorine which the Assad government has used on a regular basis, does not dissipate quickly. This explains the high number of fatalities. The victims in Syria and Turkey show all the hallmarks of a sarin attack – including twitching, jerking and foaming at the mouth.

Trump’s decision to attack Syria came three-and-a-half years after President Barack Obama threatened Assad with military action after an earlier chemical weapons attack killed hundreds outside of Damascus. Obama had declared the use of such weapons a “red line.” At the time, several American ships in the Mediterranean were poised to launch missiles, only for Obama to abruptly pull back after key U.S. ally Britain and the U.S. Congress balked at his plan.

He opted instead for the Russian-backed plan that was supposed to remove and eliminate Syria’s chemical weapons stockpiles.

The world learned of the chemical attack earlier in the week in footage that showed people dying in the streets and bodies of children stacked in piles.

The U.S. show of force in Syria raises legal questions. It’s unclear what authority Trump is relying on to attack another government. When Obama intervened in Libya in 2011, he used a U.N. Security Council mandate and NATO’s overall leadership of the mission to argue that he had legal authority — arguments that many Republicans opposed. Trump can’t rely on either justification here.

Unclear also is whether Trump is adopting any broader effort to combat Assad. Under Obama, the United States largely pulled back from its support for so-called “moderate” rebels when Russia’s military intervention in September 2015 led them to suffer a series of battlefield defeats. Instead, Obama sought to work with Russia on a negotiated transition.

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5 Responses to NOT SURE WE REALLY SHOULD BE INVOLVED HERE

  1. bogsidebunny says:

    Of course the Irish press is reporting it this way:

    1) Hillary Clinton proposed the strikes before Trump pulled the trigger

    2) Trump supporters are deserting him in droves because he did a Strike & Awe part deux.

  2. Antz, Pelousey and Upchuck Schumer are supporting this move for one (and only one)
    reason: The Democrat party has a total of 32 U.S. Senate seats in play next year.
    Of these, 11 or more are from states Trump easily won last year.

    If you remember those images of starving Ethiopians, you will understand what is
    happening here. Assad could rape a baby and cut it’s head off on video and the
    Democrat response would be DEAD FUCKING SILENCE if a Democrat was in the
    White House!

    The Democrat party embraced EVERY evil political and socio-economic ideology from
    slavery, to Darwin, socialsm, communism, Eugenics, Nazism, fascism all the way down
    to that African cannibal Idi Amin (Jimmy Carter praised him, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Mihn,
    Mao, Castro, Noriega, etc.)

    19th Century Democrats swooned over the Freanch Revolution. Darwin said a man is
    no different than any other animal. Along comes Marx and Lenin. The Democrats
    were in absolute orgiastic extisy! Along comes the Eugenics movement, the left
    welcomed it with open arms. They then swooned over Adolph Hitler, until he attacked
    their ONE TRUE LOVE Joseph Stalin.

    Does anyone think these elitst radical Stalinst communists give a FLYING FUCK about
    dead Syrian children?

    The one thing Trump did accomplish with this move was to put these assholes in
    their place! Watch how easily the Supreme Court nominee sails throug his nomination
    today.

    These clueless assholes are playing Tiddley Winks, while Trump is playing 3
    dimensional chess!

  3. I am not in favour of this. Assad is an asshat, but compared to ISIS he is a pussycat. We are lobbing missiles at a guy who kept the peace for decades and giving aid to the real enemy. I dont know that this is going to achieve anything positive. They are saying that the gas was sarin. How do we know that the shells were not planted there by ISIS or their fellow goat lovers?

  4. Eskyman says:

    The only business the USA should have with Syria is to make sure none of them come to our country. Leave the murderous savages to their own devices! When the dust settles, if there’s anyone still alive, then we can see if they want to act civilized. If not, leave them alone!

    As call_me-infidel said above, Assad is the strong man who kept the peace- the only way peace can be kept in a middle eastern hellhole, by killing the worst bad guys. I have very bad feelings about this move, especially when Demoncrats are in favor of it.

  5. redneckgeezer says:

    Anytime you wipe out a ragheaded government, another ragheaded government that’s worse always takes the place of the first one. It’s Obama’s Law of Arab Spring. Maybe Trump should have waited until December. The only difference this time is that we’ll end up dealing with the Russians and that won’t lead to anyting good.

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